Even though Red Dead Redemption 2 was released almost half a year ago, the debate is still raging among fans about who makes the better protagonist, Arthur Morgan or John Marston. John Marston was the original cowboy from the first game, but Arthur Morgan is an equal contender for best Red Dead protagonist thanks to the nuanced take on his character.

Read on to learn about the major differences between what Morgan and Maston can do in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Red Dead Redemption. Some are well-known and others are surprising but informative little details that will make the playthroughs all the more meaningful.

Updated October 21st, 2021 by Hodey Johns: After all of this time, people are still finding differences between Arthur and John. The two are remarkably similar because players control them in the same game. They share equipment, outfits, achievements, and challenges. Side characters who speak to John will sometimes speak to him like he is Arthur. Yet, even after all of this time, there are still differences between the two, varying from the important to the minute, that the community continues to uncover. This list has been revised to showcase the most important variations between the two characters and provide some explanation as to when these differences can be observed.

12/12 Swim

Red Dead Redemption 2 Johns Marston Staring Off Of The Docks

In Red Dead Redemption 2, Arthur Morgan can swim as long as his stamina holds out, which is a fairly long time. If John tries to take a dip in a lake, his stamina depletes almost instantly, and he quickly drowns. If anything makes players miss Arthur Morgan more, it's watching John Marston die during a routine fishing expedition.

This is one reason it's important to explore with Arthur first. Visiting Dutch's mother's grave is nice and non-lethal for either character, but treasure hunts on islands in lakes become almost impossible tasks once switching over the John.

11/12 Maintain The Same Eye Color

Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 John Marston Eye Color Changes

Arthur Morgan gets one up on John Marston simply for remaining consistent in his appearance. Many players have noticed that Marston's eye color changed between Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2. In the first game, Marston's eyes are a dark brown.

In the second title, they are markedly lighter, appearing to be light blue or grey. Arthur Morgan's eyes, on the other hand, remain nice and blue for the entirety of the story. Maybe the blue eyes are better at finding gorilla Easter Eggs.

10/12 Get Sick

Red Dead Redemption 2 Arthur Morgan Getting Diagnosed

Both Arthur and John will suffer various weapons-related injuries. It's bound to happen when using as many real-life-based guns as they do. John, miraculously, avoids getting sick while trapped and bleeding out in the snow for days.

While John doesn't even get so much as the sniffles, Arthur isn't so lucky. Regrettably, Arthur contracts tuberculosis and has good days and bad days up until the bitter end.

9/12 Pull Off A Long Beard

Red Dead Redemption 2 Arthur Morgan With A Freshly Trimmed Beard

Part of the freedom of Red Dead Redemption 2 comes from customizing Arthur Morgan. In that manner, no two Arthur Morgans will always look the same. Gamers can have a bald Arthur, a groomed Arthur, or a bearded Arthur.

Eventually, John Marston gets the same freedom when players play as him in the epilogue. However, if there's one thing gamers noticed when they reached the epilogue, it's that John Marston just can't pull off a beard the same way Arthur Morgan can. It's an ugly thing and even one of the game's fancy outfits can't make it look any better.

8/12 Hum While Riding His Horse

Red Dead Redemption 2 Arthur Riding A Horse On A Ridge

One of the biggest delights of Red Dead Redemption 2 comes from riding a horse across the scenic wilderness without shuttling from one objective to the next. The beautiful open world is a wonder simply to look upon and explore.

Arthur Morgan makes the experience a tad more enjoyable by contributing to the immersion. While galloping across an expanse, Morgan will, on occasion, start humming. He's tone-deaf, but at least he tries. John, on the other hand, prefers to ride in silence.

7/12 Show Growth As A Character

Red Dead Redemption 2 Arthur Morgan's Face In The Trailer

With respect to John Marston, part of the story is about how he tries to change but can't do it. Time after time he tries to bond with Jack, but can't. He tries to listen to his wife, but can't. And, until the end, he tries to leave the violent life behind, but can't.

Arthur went from being an outlaw gang's bully to being a person who wanted to do right by people. Ultimately, Arthur decides to do something different, for motivations that have completely transformed him. John Marston's character development comes nowhere near the excellence that is Arthur Morgan's.

6/12 Herd Sheep

Red Dead Redemption 2 Herding Sheep With John

We can't lay the blame for poor sheep-herding skills entirely on John Marston. The mechanics for herding in the first Red Dead Redemption were difficult, to say the least. Red Dead Redemption 2 smoothed out the "herding" process.

Those who remember herding in the first game probably still have nightmares about it. Arthur, thankfully, has a much easier time of it thanks to improved game mechanics. Hey, at least nobody is asking the characters to herd any of the game's mammoths.

5/12 Decorate And Improve The Camp

Red Dead Redemption 2 Van Der Linde Gang In A Showdown

Throughout the campaign, players will notice that (if they have been contributing to the gang's camp fund regularly) Arthur is the main provider for his fellows. Looking over the camp ledger shows how much each member contributes to bettering the camp as a whole.

John does provide a little but nowhere near as much as Arthur does. Additionally, Arthur provides camp improvements and decorations that help the gang. John, on the other hand, can't be bothered to provide so much as a thread of decor.

4/12 Be A Decent Father Figure To Jack

Red Dead Redemption 2 Jack Marston Making A Flower Necklace While Fishing

Even though John Marston purportedly wanted to be a better father to Jack, he finds himself unable to do so. Including a few meager and half-hearted attempts, John Marston does not seem to know how or want to be a dad.

Without a doubt, he loves his family. But it's Arthur who is able to give Jack the kind of love a child needs, expressing a jovial kindness to him and teaching him about what's important while shielding Jack from the cold realities of their current situation.

3/12 Avoid Scarring

Red Dead Redemption 2 John Firing Two Revolvers

Go ahead and try to tally up all of the times that Arthur gets mauled by a bear, chewed by a wolf, or bit by a snake. Arthur will bleed and need a few days or a quick bath to get rid of the wounds, but eventually, he looks flawless afterward.

John can't say the same thing. After his incident with a wolf at the beginning of the events, John gets scars that seem to get more pronounced and worse with age.

2/12 Collect Debts

Red Dead Redemption 2 Dutch Having Arthur Scout Ahead

Leopold Strauss mentioned that the other gang members tried, but Arthur is the only one capable of getting debtors to pay. Players are never permitted to see John's miserable attempts to collect money, but given his softer nature, it's understandable.

Arthur, on the other hand, is fantastic at collecting debts. He will, eventually, choose to quit the particular task with a great deal of flair. But if he wanted to keep doing the work, nothing could have stopped him, and several characters certainly try.

1/12 Keep A Great Journal

Red Dead Redemption 2 Journal Entries Done By Arthur Morgan

Red Dead Redemption 2 found little ways to make players miss Arthur Morgan just when they were recovering. One of those ways was by being able to tell the difference between Arthur and John's journal-keeping.

Arthur sketched scenes out wonderfully, and he actually had fantastic handwriting for an outlaw. John sketched things rather shoddily, and his handwriting was messier too. Looking back on old observations in the journal is a fun, if tear-jerking, experience.

Red Dead Redemption 2 was released on October 26, 2018, and is available on PC, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One.

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